Why doesn't anyone use these engines?

"cletus44 aka Clayton Seams" (cletus44) 01/26/2015 at 13:02 • Filed to: None

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I was reading !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! about a 1921 Lincoln and I couldn't stop staring at the engine. Apparently it's a 357 cu in V8 that makes 81 horsepower. It has inboard exhaust manifolds and I have no idea where the carb is but it's just gorgeous. I'm assuming it's very rare but why didn't anyone hot rod these engines? 5.8 litres is a huge amount of displacement for 1921 and the torque must be immense. I love it.

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Other engines I want to see in rat rods/hot rods:

Maserati V8

Rolls Royce V8

Jaguar V12

Ford Flathead V12

GMC "double V6" V12

bob and john > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:07

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because 81 HP.

For Sweden > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:08

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Availability of cheap small block V8s.

Racescort666 > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:08

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I'll add one I'd like to see in a rat rod: Detroit Diesel V12

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > bob and john 01/26/2015 at 13:08

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Most Ford flathead V8's only made 70 hp. It's slow for today but it must've been something in the 50's. Also dat torque

bob and john > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:10

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i'm thinking it might have been the reversed heads. easier to make 1 card work ( and prettier) then 2 carbs on the sides and the exhaust spagettiing all over the motor

ranwhenparked > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:11

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Lincolns were built in fairly small numbers in the '20s, less than 10,000 a year, so those engines aren't exactly laying around everywhere. Also, those cars are fairly valuable, so that doesn't make them attractive hot rod material.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:12

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Blastolene (the ones who built Jay Leno's Tank Car) did a GMC twin-six hot rod:

which I saw at AutoFair one year (2008 or 09 maybe?)

and I saw this at AutoFair 1997 or so:

Yes, that's a Lamborghini V12 in a Ford Model T

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 01/26/2015 at 13:16

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This is what I'm talking about! So cool.

cletus44 aka Clayton Seams > Racescort666 01/26/2015 at 13:16

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Wish granted

Racescort666 > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:53

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I think it's wild how those engines always sound like they're in runaway.

MultiplaOrgasms > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 13:58

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Hmmm engines you want to see in hot rods eh? Meh, mine are better.

Toyota V "Hemi"

Prince W64

Lancia Tipo 81

Maybach Zeppelin DS8 OHV V12

Horch 851 SOHC Inline 8

RR Phantom III OHV V12

Kharkiv V-2 DOHC V12 Diesel

Honda E07A MTREC

MultiplaOrgasms > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 14:02

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When I come to power, two-stroke V12 diesels will become mandatory for all cars.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > cletus44 aka Clayton Seams 01/26/2015 at 14:29

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Ford uses inboard exhaust in their new Powerstroke so they can seat the turbo in the valley of the Vee. Less exhaust path length means lest heat loss so higher exhaust gas velocity, more boost and faster spool up.

Also, no one uses those engines because they are a pain in the ass when you can buy a Small Block Chevy V8 for dirt cheap and make way more horsepower and have tons of parts availability and aftermarket support. That said, I'm in your camp, I love to see unusual swaps in hot rods. There's a great car show every year in PA at the Latimore Valley fairgrounds called the Jalopy Cruise In. It's all dudes dressed like greasers in rat rods, but they do some sick engine swaps - Caddy V8s, early Firepower hemis, Buick Nailheads. Saw a truck powered by a GMC "Double V6" mounted midship between the frame rails where the bed used to be, driving through a Caddy El Dorado trans. I also saw a car with a real Latham plate supercharger. I have pics somewhere, I'll try to find them for you.